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#62 ·
AMSOIL 0w40 Engine oil
AMSOIL Chaincase 2000 Gearbox
AMSOIL Severe Gear 75w90 Diffs
 
#64 ·
ifishinxs said:
This topic was just re discussed on another board..So I'll make this post for info only.

For those that don't know or haven't heard..The BRP chaincase oil is An ISO-VG 100...Which translates to an 80W-90W. With this being the case any synthetic 75W-90W GL-5 gear oil will do the trick. I have just changed over to Amsoil Severe Gear 75W-90W with 2 oz of Schaeffers moly EP..No more rocking the machine to shift..Its now smooth as butter.
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I would love to see where this information came from as there is no way in HE double hockey sticks that the AMSOIL chaincase oil is 80w-90. I would say, 30W at best. I haven't seen the BRP stuff, as when the initial service was done at the dealer, they put 75w-90 in it and it was a nasty bugger to shift in the cold weather. I personally think the AMSOIL stuff is a little thin, but that is what is recommended right from AMSOIL. I also think a 75w-90 or 80w90 is way to thick. Does anyone have a picture of the BRP XP-S chainscase oil bottle??? I would like to see what it says on the back of it.
 
#68 ·
Behind the piece of black plastic near your right ankle while sitting on the machine. There is a 15 mm plastic plug...that is the level check and fill plug, the drain is almost straight down from that, check your manual, it gives a good picture of where it is.
 
#69 ·
crewdog506 said:
I would love to see where this information came from as there is no way in HE double hockey sticks that the AMSOIL chaincase oil is 80w-90. I would say, 30W at best. I haven't seen the BRP stuff, as when the initial service was done at the dealer, they put 75w-90 in it and it was a nasty bugger to shift in the cold weather. I personally think the AMSOIL stuff is a little thin, but that is what is recommended right from AMSOIL. I also think a 75w-90 or 80w90 is way to thick. Does anyone have a picture of the BRP XP-S chainscase oil bottle??? I would like to see what it says on the back of it.
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Here you go..You can see for yourself...ISO-VG 100

http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/iso-vg-grade-d_1206.html

And a great discussion here:

http://www.can-amforum.com/forums/can-am-brp/8727-brp-brand-chain-case-oil.html

I learned a bunch reading this stuff..Like you and lot of other guys I thought the oil was probably lighter...I have to say my machine shifts super smooth.
 
#70 ·
I see where you are getting that info...but I think there is two issues with that.

1. WHere are you getting the ISO-VG100 rating??? Off a bottle of XPS chaincase oil???

2. I don't think the chaincase oil is a gear lube, as you are showing from the like. It's no where near 80w or 90w. Have you had the stuff in your hands...it's more like engine oil...which would be the 30w rating from the graph above the one you are looking at in the link.
 
#71 ·
In my Renegade I use the following:

Amsoil 0W-40 / OEM BRP Oil Filter
Amsoil Synthetic Water Resistant Grease

Eventually I plan on converting all my lubrication on the Renegade to Amsoil..
 
#72 ·
I read that entire thread from aurora...can someone proove that the ISO VG100 is the rating that is needed...as I have an owners manual and a service manual and neither state that information!!!! Written in black and white is the only way its going to be proven. Does everyone believe everything that is written on these forums??? I sure don't.
 
#73 ·
I searched the internet for proof on what the XPS chaincase is, and all I found was the same Aurora forum. Maybe I'll have to stop at the dealer on my way home today and get some pics of the bottle.
 
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crewdog506 said:
I see where you are getting that info...but I think there is two issues with that.

1. WHere are you getting the ISO-VG100 rating??? Off a bottle of XPS chaincase oil???

2. I don't think the chaincase oil is a gear lube, as you are showing from the like. It's no where near 80w or 90w. Have you had the stuff in your hands...it's more like engine oil...which would be the 30w rating from the graph above the one you are looking at in the link.
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Okay now I'm going to really screw you up...Check this out...straight from Amsoil themselves. This is probably why some Amsoil dealers are telling guys that the exact replacement of the chaincase oil is the severe gear 75W-140W..as the severe gear replaces the 2000 series oil.

http://www.synthoils.com/atv-polarislube.htm

Here is the frosting on the cake:

BRP XP-S Synthetic is..Drum roll..click on the link

http://www.parkeryamaha.com/brpxp-ssyntheticchaincaseoil.aspx

The oil is an 80W 140W..

The VG100 was picked up I believe in a 2006 shop manual. Then we have multiple dealers that use 75W-90W as stock gear case fill.I think that sealed the deal. MY owers manual says nothing about it.

I think if this topic gets hashed out enough will find some common ground..Then Know exactly what oil we are dealing with. If someone would get a test done on the Chaincase oil we would know for sure whats in it.
 
#75 ·
Rotella T Synthetic 5W40. Do some research on motor oil additive EP properties, and you'll understand. Amsoil, Red Line and Rotella all use the same (Group IV???) base oils, but only Red Line and Rotella have a goodly bit of EP additives (zinc, phosphorus, molybdenum disulphide, etc). Amsoil has basically none or only trace amounts.

Without EP additives, you're relying on a thin film of oil to lubricate. While this is normal, if something goes wrong (low oil pressure, throttle stabs, out of balance conditions, etc), the EP additives still provide wear protection.

Again, Rotella T....

Cheers,
John
 
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#76 ·
The series 2000 gear lube is a different product than the series 2000 chaincase oil. They don't even offer the series 2000 gear lube any more, it's the severe gear stuff now, and if you look at AMSOILs website...AMSOIL...the severe gear stuff doesn't meet the so called ISO VG100 oil rating you are claiming. Bottom line, we can post back and forth all day...and this will never be settled, because no one can proove what classification of oil is required. The book says BRP XP-S chaincase, and that's it. The AMSOIL series 2000 chaincase oil is a direct replacement for the BRP stuff. I have had the AMSOIL in my hands, and I can tell you that it is no way an 80 w oil. 30 w at best. Go buy a bottle and see for yourself. For those reading this thread, use what you like, the AMSOIL stuff works great. I've had 75-90 in my gearbox and it shifted like it was locked up if the temperature was anywhere near 40 F. The AMSOIL stuff shifts well in all temps and has been proven to be a direct replacement (by AMSOIL).

Oh, that AMSOIL website you were on is a dealers site and he can write pretty much anything he wants to on there, go to the actual site. As far as the parker yamaha site claiming its a 80w-90...THEY ARE A YAMAHA SITE and probably have no clue what an outlander is, let alone how to service it. And a dealer saying that its the oil they use...well, a local to me dealer said they adjusted my valves at the initial service, but the valve covers were never taken off...explain that! I don't believe a word that comes from anyone at a dealership.
 
#77 ·
I use Mobil 1 as well. I did run Amsoil but I figured the Mobil 1 would be a bit easier to find in a pinch. In my opinion I would never add a standard oil in with full synthetic.
 
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crewdog506 said:
The series 2000 gear lube is a different product than the series 2000 chaincase oil. They don't even offer the series 2000 gear lube any more, it's the severe gear stuff now, and if you look at AMSOILs website...AMSOIL...the severe gear stuff doesn't meet the so called ISO VG100 oil rating you are claiming. Bottom line, we can post back and forth all day...and this will never be settled, because no one can proove what classification of oil is required. The book says BRP XP-S chaincase, and that's it. The AMSOIL series 2000 chaincase oil is a direct replacement for the BRP stuff. I have had the AMSOIL in my hands, and I can tell you that it is no way an 80 w oil. 30 w at best. Go buy a bottle and see for yourself. For those reading this thread, use what you like, the AMSOIL stuff works great. I've had 75-90 in my gearbox and it shifted like it was locked up if the temperature was anywhere near 40 F. The AMSOIL stuff shifts well in all temps and has been proven to be a direct replacement (by AMSOIL).

Oh, that AMSOIL website you were on is a dealers site and he can write pretty much anything he wants to on there, go to the actual site. As far as the parker yamaha site claiming its a 80w-90...THEY ARE A YAMAHA SITE and probably have no clue what an outlander is, let alone how to service it. And a dealer saying that its the oil they use...well, a local to me dealer said they adjusted my valves at the initial service, but the valve covers were never taken off...explain that! I don't believe a word that comes from anyone at a dealership.
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Did you check out the link? This dealer sells parts and accessories for alot of makes and models...They Know what a Can Am is they sell them..
http://www.parkeryamaha.com/brpxp-ssyntheticchaincaseoil.aspx...The discription under the bottle says what it is. Its an 80W-140W GL-5. If in Doubt give them a call. I'm also thinking that this Chaincase oil may come in different viscosities..Que No? ONe more link for you..Go to post #26.

http://www.can-amforum.com/forums/can-am-brp/1909-gear-box-oil.html
 
#79 · (Edited by Moderator)
Que NO??? I'm not french, so don't try to talk to me like I am. First...you are reading something that "JOE SCHMO" typed on that forum, as good as nothing to me. Second, parker yamaha can type anything they want there. And just because they sell it, doesn't mean they know what they are talking about! GET A PIC OF THE BOTTLE AND SOME PROOF THAT IT IS 80 weight oil. Until then, I have nothing to say, other than I have had the AMSOIL in my hands, you have not...and I can tell you it's not 80 wieght oil. PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And, if you read the post you are pointing me to...it says it's 30 weight motor oil...not 80 weight. Get your story straight please.
 
#80 ·
Well I stopped at the dealer last night and looked at a bottle of the XPS chaincase lube. I didn't get a picture because it doesn't say much.

The only thing it mentioned on it was GL-5. No mention of VG-100, or any mention of it's viscosity.
 
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