[crewdog506]

Without being able to pin point the noise from the video, I think whatever is wrong is inside the secondary. Helix, spring, debris...etc.

 

[canam k]

At the end of Part 1 in the video my engine brake is stopping hard like yours, once I go in and out of park or another gear which hides the problem. I was just trying to understand the failure a bit better. In other words, would a failing 1-way bearing cause the freewheeling, and also all that clattering when it is freewheeling.

I'm trying to get a new clutch under warranty, but this one has me stumped right now.

Not sure about what exactly your issue is but if your dealer says that's normal and don't fix it I'd be one pissed off hombre if I were you.

 

[Bokbok454]

Got the video to load.

I'm with everyone else here.
Park it. Seriously.
It sounds like a couple of different things to me but a video leaves a lot to the imagination.

Find another dealer. Or Find someone who knows BRP and can take a look.

Part of what I hear sounds like it's trying to slip out of gear.
But, it wouldn't go away if you gave t fuel, it would get worse if it was slipping a gear. You mentioned if you switch ranges it gets better? I guess it's possible the shift linkage is out of whack and it's literally grinding gears a little. It would also explain if it's slipping ranges why engine braking comes and goes.
Just thinking out loud.

I wouldn't ride it. If it's under warranty I would let a dealer who has a clue sort it out.
If it were mine it would spread apart on garage floor by now.

Something is wrong. It should not sounds like that.....ever.

Life feels like that final exam I didn't study for.

 

[Rambo]

Not sure about what exactly your issue is but if your dealer says that's normal and don't fix it I'd be one "edit for bad language" off hombre if I were you.

The dealer is trying, and even disassemble/serviced/reassembled the clutch for free as part of the 10 hour service. All their inspections passed. I have to wait for BRP to go through the video and my written history of the failure and recommend a new clutch or whatever.

 

[Rambo]

Got the video to load.

I'm with everyone else here.
Park it. Seriously.
It sounds like a couple of different things to me but a video leaves a lot to the imagination.

Find another dealer. Or Find someone who knows BRP and can take a look.

Part of what I hear sounds like it's trying to slip out of gear.
But, it wouldn't go away if you gave t fuel, it would get worse if it was slipping a gear. You mentioned if you switch ranges it gets better? I guess it's possible the shift linkage is out of whack and it's literally grinding gears a little. It would also explain if it's slipping ranges why engine braking comes and goes.
Just thinking out loud.

I wouldn't ride it. If it's under warranty I would let a dealer who has a clue sort it out.
If it were mine it would spread apart on garage floor by now.

Something is wrong. It should not sounds like that.....ever.

Life feels like that final exam I didn't study for.

Arghh! I'm scheduled to go to New Denver, BC (Sandon, Mt Idaho, Kaslo) for 4 days, then Slocan Valley (Mount Ruppel), then Trout Lake/Duncan Dam/Meadow Mountain for 5 days.

When I gas it, it grabs strong and no more clattering, full power. It only clatters when I start descending, probably when I let off the throttle and expect the engine brake to kick in. It seems to happen about once an hour, and when it happens, I can put it in park, or change gears, and the bike runs perfectly for another hour. I think the software has a function in it called "Let'sScrewRamboEveryHour();". The engine braking is perfect 90+% of the time, and randomly decides to freewheel and clatter when the function above is called.

Since it's so close to working, I guess the dealer wouldn't be able to see anything obvious. That's why I'm pushing for a complete clutch replacement and I think they are starting to agree.

I really appreciate all the help I'm getting on this site - fantastic feedback! Thanks again.

 

[canam k]

The dealer is trying, and even disassemble/serviced/reassembled the clutch for free as part of the 10 hour service. All their inspections passed. I have to wait for BRP to go through the video and my written history of the failure and recommend a new clutch or whatever.

Well at least they are trying I guess...hope they fix it for you soon.

 

[Bokbok454]

I am curious as to what the noise is. While I'm happy they will throw parts at it to get you rolling, I would be interested to see a tear down.

Life feels like that final exam I didn't study for.

 

[Rambo]

I am curious as to what the noise is. While I'm happy they will throw parts at it to get you rolling, I would be interested to see a tear down.

Life feels like that final exam I didn't study for.

I am checking with a 2nd dealer now.

 

[Rambo]

FYI the dealer thinks it might be a broken gearbox... sigh!

 

[Bokbok454]

Maybe I was on the right track.

That sucks.
They should be able to swap a gearbox and have you going again soon. They aren't that difficult.

Life feels like that final exam I didn't study for.

 

[KWIK RACING INC.]

that grinding noise could very well be the tranny.... one way to find out is to replace it.... i mean for a dealer clutch rebuild should be like doing it blind folded for them.... if you know clutches it would be easy to find.... they maybe did everything right with the clutches but did nt think it could be the tranny.... thats why after they did the clutches it was still broken like that.... just a thought... check the tranny ... and replace... it could very well be a shiftfork or gear in the tranny that has gone bad... and slips out of gear but kinda keeps going and grinding... then grabbing again at certain times...

 

[tomasbrp]

100% transmision problems. I have witnessed already 3 '16 models do that. On my personal it threw out L gear in the middle of the climb to a steep hill. And sometimes it happens on descend.

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[tomasbrp]

You even have it engaged in Low while the speedometer shows H. So thats misalignment of the gears.

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[Rambo]

100% transmision problems. I have witnessed already 3 '16 models do that. On my personal it threw out L gear in the middle of the climb to a steep hill. And sometimes it happens on descend.

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I also lost low gear while climbing. It lost power (like in neutral) and started to rattle. So I stopped, put it in park, put it back in low gear and it worked again.

 

[Rambo]

You even have it engaged in Low while the speedometer shows H. So thats misalignment of the gears.

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Yes, excellent observation. That happened on 2 different '16 machines to me.

 

[DjEclipse]

Yes, excellent observation. That happened on 2 different '16 machines to me.

Did you figure out what the problem was?

My 2021 650 XMR did the same thing just after crusing at 5000rpm let off the gas, no engine breaking and the same rattling sound.

Thanks