[Rambo]

My 2016 850 Outlander Max XT has 10 hours and I have had the engine brake fail to engage about 7-8 times since new. When it fails to engage, I hear a very loud banging, rattling type sound. Is this the belt slapping around in the clutch? Even if I am below the engagement speed starting down a hill, I don't expect to hear noise like that from a new machine. Do you guys have any suggestions? I'll be taking it to the dealer soon for the 10 hour service and would appreciate any direction you can give me on this. Thanks.

Rambo

 

[Canwoodsman]

I'll be taking it to the dealer soon for the 10 hour service and would appreciate any direction you can give me on this.

Although my quad is a 2016 450 is the 10 hr service recommended for the 2016 850?

Seem pretty early.

What does the manual call for?

My first required service is at 50 hours 1,000 miles.

Dealer looking for an extra service call?

As for the engine brake problem yes that should be looked at as it shouldn't fail & mine never has in just over 26 hrs.

 

[ponyboy96]

You should take that to the dealer. That's not right.

 

[KuntryQuestTSi]

Secondary could be loose, or a helix problem

 

[Rambo]

The dealer took the clutch apart and serviced it and the problem still happens. It feels like the bike it in neutral when it fails, and I think the belt must be off the clutches, banging around. Here's a video in case anyone has any ideas about this.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/7DR07MwzbPQ

 

[Snowman]

Could it be the wrong belt?

 

[DaveB]

Seems the secondary needs to be tighter, or it's hanging up, or the belt is too long, or the one-way bearing in the primary is fubared......

 

[KWIK RACING INC.]

i would find a new dealer.... a good brp tech would of found the problem with the clutches... there is something wrong... dont ride it like that... take it to another dealer... this is warranty anyways,,,

 

[Rambo]

Thanks for the ideas. I'll check the belt. Also it seems to happen after an hour or more so I'm thinking it might be temperature related. I guess changing gears or going in and out of park must reseat the belt for a while. The engine brake is strong and works 90% of the time. Very strange.

 

[KWIK RACING INC.]

you can think and guess whatever you want sir.... there is something wrong...belts do not have to reseat either... please DONT ride it or you could do more damage... if your dealer is that stupid and cant fix clutches then you must find a new dealer that can... its warranty for you anyways, like i said ...

 

[canam k]

I agree find another dealer because there's deff something wrong with the clutches.

 

[Rambo]

Just a question, are the new bikes supposed to freewheel when you let off the throttle at low speed?

 

[DaveB]

The Can Am engine braking usually works right down to a crawl in my experience. Clutches with no 1-way bearing tend to "declutch" at 5-10 mph....ish.

 

[canam k]

Just a question, are the new bikes supposed to freewheel when you let off the throttle at low speed?

If so it must be very low speed because I never noticed it freewheel yet and I had 3 Outty's an 06 800 a 12 Outty 1000 and now a new 16 Outty 1000R

all work the same as far as the EBing.

 

[choPppps]

The way I understand it, is EB is done below 10 mph and affected by the one way bearing, so no free wheeling unless you happen to touch the throttle. I think anything above 10 mph is actually the torque of the motor slowing you done.

Is this correct?

 

[Rambo]

Thanks guys. So if my 1-way bearing were pooched, I might get freewheeling at low speeds, when I release the throttle (as in the video)?

 

[canam k]

Thanks guys. So if my 1-way bearing were pooched, I might get freewheeling at low speeds, when I release the throttle (as in the video)?

My EBing will take me almost to a stop...either way just based on the noise alone on your vid that is no way normal.

 

[Bokbok454]

Every can am I've been on with stock clutching has had engine braking all the way down.
To the point where I use engine breaking a lot.

I can't get the video to play cause crap internet.
But a bad one way will do what you describe.

Life feels like that final exam I didn't study for.

 

[Rambo]

My EBing will take me almost to a stop...either way just based on the noise alone on your vid that is no way normal.

At the end of Part 1 in the video my engine brake is stopping hard like yours, once I go in and out of park or another gear which hides the problem. I was just trying to understand the failure a bit better. In other words, would a failing 1-way bearing cause the freewheeling, and also all that clattering when it is freewheeling.

I'm trying to get a new clutch under warranty, but this one has me stumped right now.

 

[Rambo]

Every can am I've been on with stock clutching has had engine braking all the way down.
To the point where I use engine breaking a lot.
I can't get the video to play cause crap internet.
But a bad one way will do what you describe.
Life feels like that final exam I didn't study for.

Our posts crossed. Thanks, that's what I was wondering. Would the clattering noise be the belt, or helix, or something else? I hope the video works for you next try.