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Poll: ENGINE OIL & VISCOSITY USAGE IN CAN-AMS (377 member(s) have cast votes)

What brand of synthetic engine oil do you use in your Can-Am?

  1. AMSOIL (130 votes [34.39%])

    Percentage of vote: 34.39%

  2. BRP (77 votes [20.37%])

    Percentage of vote: 20.37%

  3. CASTROL SYNTEC (22 votes [5.82%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.82%

  4. MOBIL 1 (53 votes [14.02%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.02%

  5. OTHER BRAND (96 votes [25.40%])

    Percentage of vote: 25.40%

What viscosity of synthetic engine oil do you use most of the time?

  1. 0W40 (135 votes [35.71%])

    Percentage of vote: 35.71%

  2. 5W30 (93 votes [24.60%])

    Percentage of vote: 24.60%

  3. 5W40 (104 votes [27.51%])

    Percentage of vote: 27.51%

  4. OTHER VISCOSITY (46 votes [12.17%])

    Percentage of vote: 12.17%

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#1 CANAM705

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 11:14 PM

The question of what motor oil should be used in our Can-Ams comes up a few times in these forums. Let's take a poll here and see what results come in from the members here. The poll choices have been taken from the different forums on this topic and the brand names are placed in alphabetical order so as not to show any favoritism in the listings. Thanks for taking the time to participate in this survey and provide any comments! :TgC_emoticon142:

Edited by CANAM705, 25 January 2010 - 01:55 PM.

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 11:19 PM

I've always sworn by the BRP oil. Its the only oil I used in my sleds, and its the only oil I used in my quad. Yes there are other good oils out there, but I know the mfg's oil will meet the specs. :TgC_emoticon142:

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Posted 25 January 2010 - 03:52 AM

Yeah same here... I have always used just BRP oils for sure while the unit is still with in warranty. I know lots of guys that are using other oils like Amsoil but I priced it out the other day and it's not much cheaper then the BRP oils. So I may as well continue to use the BRP oils and if there is a warrantable failure they can't accuse me of not using there oils! I was a warranty administrator for 12 years for 35 different farm equipment product lines and so I know all to well how the manufactures handle warranty. They are all pretty much saying "You don't have to use our oils, just if you want warranty" I have seen lots of claims denied due to the fact that the end user did not use the manufacture's oils and for that reason along, I use BRP oils.
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Posted 25 January 2010 - 07:36 AM

Castrol and BRP are the same.
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Posted 25 January 2010 - 07:44 AM

Do you have written proof of that?
If a component would fail and an oil sample had to be sent into BRP (usual the first thing they ask for) are you 100% sure it would pass the test?

Please don't get me wrong, I am not trying to be a smart a$$ it's just I have been down this road a million times. The specific manufacture always adds a dye to there oil so it can be detected in an oil sample test.
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Posted 25 January 2010 - 09:35 AM

I use Shell Rotella-T Full Synthetic 5W40
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Posted 25 January 2010 - 10:55 AM

I run Amsoil in everything, even the lawn mower, pressure washer, darn, even the air compressor gets Amsoil!

Sleds (3 years).
Outty (3.5 years).
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Posted 25 January 2010 - 11:10 AM

Castrol and BRP are the same.



Ask yourself this, how many oil refineries does BRP Own? I will answer that for you, NONE. BRP oil is not made by the BRP, it is bid out to oil companies. The lowest bid for their specs usually is the winner of the contract. Many of these oil companies you may have heard of (e.g. BP) but just because they make it is not reason to think its the same product as their brand. A vast majority of them are companies who only make private labels oils. These companies make many brands but don't have their own brand. They cater to these power sports and small engine oem's who want to capitalize on the lucrative lubricant sales and they dream of having loyal customers along the lines of Harley Davidson. The dealer might give you a great deal on your ATV or SXS but he is going to make a ton of $$ selling you all the accessories and oil products which have a huge markup.

There are major incentives to dealers to sell/push OEM oil; they get price reductions in clothing and accessories, build credits toward parts returns etc. That is why you won't see many dealers sell after market oil. A business associate is part owner with his dad in a PS dealership. He says he makes 50% profit on every bottle of oem oil he sells. He has several brands of ATV's, boats, snowmobile and has loyal users of the oem lubes.

Contrary to what many think the oem brands are often no better than any of the lubricants found on store shelves. The oem wants you to think they have the best and only oil for your ATV but they do that for one reason and one reason only, they want all of your business. Same oil, different label and different propaganda.

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Posted 25 January 2010 - 11:19 AM

No its a fact Castrol makes all BRP's oil products. I see and talk to the Castrol sales rep and he has also said they do. He was not able to give much info on it due to legal reasons. They have a hole section of their wharehouse stocked full of BRP oils.
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Posted 25 January 2010 - 11:22 AM

Do you have written proof of that?
If a component would fail and an oil sample had to be sent into BRP (usual the first thing they ask for) are you 100% sure it would pass the test?

Please don't get me wrong, I am not trying to be a smart a$$ it's just I have been down this road a million times. The specific manufacture always adds a dye to there oil so it can be detected in an oil sample test.



Are you asking me this question?

No I do not have it i writting. I can only tell you what my Castrol rep tells me.
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Posted 25 January 2010 - 11:32 AM

Ask yourself this, how many oil refineries does BRP Own? I will answer that for you, NONE. BRP oil is not made by the BRP, it is bid out to oil companies. The lowest bid for their specs usually is the winner of the contract. Many of these oil companies you may have heard of (e.g. BP) but just because they make it is not reason to think its the same product as their brand. A vast majority of them are companies who only make private labels oils. These companies make many brands but don't have their own brand. They cater to these power sports and small engine oem's who want to capitalize on the lucrative lubricant sales and they dream of having loyal customers along the lines of Harley Davidson. The dealer might give you a great deal on your ATV or SXS but he is going to make a ton of $$ selling you all the accessories and oil products which have a huge markup.

There are major incentives to dealers to sell/push OEM oil; they get price reductions in clothing and accessories, build credits toward parts returns etc. That is why you won't see many dealers sell after market oil. A business associate is part owner with his dad in a PS dealership. He says he makes 50% profit on every bottle of oem oil he sells. He has several brands of ATV's, boats, snowmobile and has loyal users of the oem lubes.

Contrary to what many think the oem brands are often no better than any of the lubricants found on store shelves. The oem wants you to think they have the best and only oil for your ATV but they do that for one reason and one reason only, they want all of your business. Same oil, different label and different propaganda.

PS-30 yrs in the lubricants business.



Castrol makes a crap load of products for the OE. BRP 5w40 is only 2-3 dollars more than 5w40 Syntec. I deal with these companies that sell private label stuff and I know what goes on. Buy enough of anything and I can get your name on it. I sell DEKA marine batteries with private name on it. I also sell tire shine with a private name on it.
Does Castrol change BRP's 5w40 to make it differant than their's, not sure. I do know any quallity synthetic oil product would be good.
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Posted 25 January 2010 - 12:27 PM

I use Shell Rotella-T Full Synthetic 5W40

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Posted 25 January 2010 - 12:30 PM

I run Amsoil in everything, even the lawn mower, pressure washer, darn, even the air compressor gets Amsoil!

Sleds (3 years).
Outty (3.5 years).
Gade (1.5 years).
KTM 450 (3 years).
Honda 1100 (8 years).
Honda 150 (3 years).
Yamaha 4500 watt genset (2 years).
Motovert 146cc Mini X (2 years).
Hayabusa (2 years).
Lawn mower (6 years).
Pressure washer (5 years).
Air compressor (5 years).
Car and truck gets 6000 km oil changes so no Amsoil!



Helps if you are an Amsoil Dealer. Hard stuff to find around here. I'd like to see Rotella in some of those tests of Amsoil. Makes me wonder why it's not included in any test. :TgC_emoticon142: It's in just about every store out there.

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Posted 25 January 2010 - 12:42 PM

ya'll no i am a quakerstate advocate haah.....5w20 or 5w30 full synthetic all year long.....4000+km's now. ....run the same stuff in both my viecles aswell. :TgC_emoticon142:


 

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Posted 25 January 2010 - 10:45 PM

Do you have written proof of that?
If a component would fail and an oil sample had to be sent into BRP (usual the first thing they ask for) are you 100% sure it would pass the test?

Please don't get me wrong, I am not trying to be a smart a$$ it's just I have been down this road a million times. The specific manufacture always adds a dye to there oil so it can be detected in an oil sample test.


i dont know about Canada, but in the US a dealer would/could if the consumer knew, get the pants sued off them if they denyed warranty even if no record of service is offered.

i have never even seen an auto dealer ask. motorcycles and other offroad vehicles are just really at the mercy of the dealer. no matter what you do.

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Posted 26 January 2010 - 02:43 PM

I use Shell Rotella-T Full Synthetic 5W40


i use that in my atvs with wet clutches, because it has NO friction modifiers. it works fantastic in those applications, but i don't know if i'd recommend using it in an automatic. just my 2 cents... mobil 1 0W40 has been my oil of choice in the renegade. i also add a few oz. of schaeffer's moly e.p. every other oil change.

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Posted 26 January 2010 - 04:01 PM

i dont know about Canada, but in the US a dealer would/could if the consumer knew, get the pants sued off them if they denyed warranty even if no record of service is offered.

i have never even seen an auto dealer ask. motorcycles and other offroad vehicles are just really at the mercy of the dealer. no matter what you do.

just my experience.


I have seen LOADS of claim fully DENIED because the end user was not using the manufacture brands oil. I was in the warranty business for 12 years and dealt with lots of product lines trust me I know and I have never seen or heard of an end user suing anyone because at the end of the day, he is fully in the WRONG!

I am fully aware that BRP does NOT make there own oils, but they DO put a die in there oils so it can be traced when an oil sample is done!
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Posted 27 January 2010 - 11:07 AM

I have seen LOADS of claim fully DENIED because the end user was not using the manufacture brands oil. I was in the warranty business for 12 years and dealt with lots of product lines trust me I know and I have never seen or heard of an end user suing anyone because at the end of the day, he is fully in the WRONG!

I am fully aware that BRP does NOT make there own oils, but they DO put a die in there oils so it can be traced when an oil sample is done!


I'm not saying you haven't seen claims denied in Canada for not using the manufacturer's oils. But hear in the US if you were using lets say Valvoline oil in your ATV and it met the specifications for oil listed in the manual and BRP tried to deny your claim based on that. You would not need to sue them because Valvoline would be suing them for you.

We have lots of laws protecting competition in the US. I mean car makers were required to put a universal diagnostic plug (OBD) in their vehicles so that repair shops other than dealers would need to buy only one diagnostic tester. Thats just one of many examples.

Now if in the BRP manual it said you MUST use BRP oil, then they could deny a claim based on oil if a user did not use the BRP oil.

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Posted 27 January 2010 - 12:51 PM

If the oil meets OE specs than it would meet warranty specs.
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Posted 27 January 2010 - 08:51 PM

I have seen LOADS of claim fully DENIED because the end user was not using the manufacture brands oil. I was in the warranty business for 12 years and dealt with lots of product lines trust me I know and I have never seen or heard of an end user suing anyone because at the end of the day, he is fully in the WRONG!

I am fully aware that BRP does NOT make there own oils, but they DO put a die in there oils so it can be traced when an oil sample is done!

You must not only have very different laws up there but also a different owners manual and warranty. My owners manual mentions nothing at all about BRP branded fluids of any kind. It simply states that fluids must meet the specifications in the owners manual in order to keep the warranty valid. As for being wrong, ripping people off by unfairly denying warranty claims in order to sell way overpriced oil is wrong not using perfectly good oils that do meet the manufacturers specifications.
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